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The definitive sequel to New York Times bestseller How the Scots Invented the Modern World is a magisterial account of how the two greatest thinkers of the ancient world, Plato and Aristotle, laid the foundations of Western culture—and how their rivalry shaped the essential features of our culture down to the present day. Plato came from a wealthy, connected Athenian family and lived a comfortable upper-class lifestyle until he met an odd little man named Socrates, who showed him a new world of ideas and ideals. Socrates taught Plato that a man must use reason to attain wisdom, and that the life of a lover of wisdom, a philosopher, was the pinnacle of achievement. Plato dedicated himself to living that ideal and went on to create a school, his famed Academy, to teach others the path to enlightenment through contemplation. However, the same Academy that spread Plato’s teachings also fostered his greatest rival. Born to a family of Greek physicians, Aristotle had learned early on the value of observation and hands-on experience. Rather than rely on pure contemplation, he insisted that the truest path to knowledge is through empirical discovery and exploration of the world around us. Aristotle, Plato’s most brilliant pupil, thus settled on a philosophy very different from his instructor’s and launched a rivalry with profound effects on Western culture. The two men disagreed on the fundamental purpose of the philosophy. For Plato, the image of the cave summed up man’s destined path, emerging from the darkness of material existence to the light of a higher and more spiritual truth. Aristotle thought otherwise. Instead of rising above mundane reality, he insisted, the philosopher’s job is to explain how the real world works, and how we can find our place in it. Aristotle set up a school in Athens to rival Plato’s Academy: the Lyceum. The competition that ensued between the two schools, and between Plato and Aristotle, set the world on an intellectual adventure that lasted through the Middle Ages and Renaissance and that still continues today. From Martin Luther (who named Aristotle the third great enemy of true religion, after the devil and the Pope) to Karl Marx (whose utopian views rival Plato’s), heroes and villains of history have been inspired and incensed by these two master philosophers—but never outside their influence. Accessible, riveting, and eloquently written, The Cave and the Light provides a stunning new perspective on the Western world, certain to open eyes and stir debate. Praise for The Cave and the Light “A sweeping intellectual history viewed through two ancient Greek lenses . . . breezy and enthusiastic but resting on a sturdy rock of research.” — Kirkus Reviews “Examining mathematics, politics, theology, and architecture, the book demonstrates the continuing relevance of the ancient world.” — Publishers Weekly “A fabulous way to understand over two millennia of history, all in one book.” — Library Journal “Entertaining and often illuminating.” — The Wall Street Journal

Review: Engaging Content with Exceptional Thematic Focus, Narrative Flow & Integrative Range/Cohesion - As a habitual eclectic reader, I rarely read a book as lengthy as this one; but its subject matter and treatment elicit/sustain the requisite attentiveness. The necessarily higher-level treatment of its panoramic content, moreover, has prompted me to order copies of a number of the book’s cited references - an indication of the range of the book’s vital content. These references are more specialized titles that I otherwise would likely have remained unaware of - an indication of the salience of the book’s disparate content. Most importantly, this book is an artful/insightful exposition of the enduring and ever-evolving historical impact of the respective legacies of Plato and Aristotle. In particular, it recounts the recurring interplay of subsequent appropriations of their ideas as well as their relative prominence during various historical periods. This interplay is grounded in the fundamentally opposed world views of Plato and Aristotle. The book centers on this interplay as evidenced in the various adaptations/extensions by subsequent influential thinkers. And in turn, these derivative ideas are explored in terms of their deployment by political movements, leaders, or governments. Historical oscillation in the relative influence of Plato-versus-Aristotle perspectives is seen to engender a general tension that yields a dynamism in-the-large that drives societal/cultural evolution. Politically, this dynamism inheres in the historically modulating force of collective authority relative to individual liberty, where the former associates with Plato’s legacy, and the latter with Aristotle’s. Discrete human decisions/actions in concert drive this dynamism in various near-term perturbations. These diverse forcing functions are enacted via incidentally available information, whose suitability and timelines is typically lacking to some degree. Clearly then, the selection and quality of such information constrain the caliber of results proactively achievable, especially on a large scale. In particular, such non-ideal factors become exceedingly problematical in trying to deliberately manage an overall economic system, challenging even its mere feasibility. Other sources of undesired outcomes loom in the decision-making process itself. On one hand, a Platonist authority’s striving for consensus or unanimity may yield stagnation - due to a single-minded foreclosure on alternative prospects. On the other hand, an Aristotelian emphasis on reasoning may impose a narrow-mindedness - due to the disregard of qualitative factors like humanistic considerations. In either case, the inherent opposition of the Plato-Aristotle legacy may well be evident in distorted outcomes. And in consequence, there arises the desideratum of a complementary blending of the two perspectives, or effectively, between affectivity and rationality. The pronounced difference in Plato’s and Aristotle’s respective positions, moreover, involves in a range of elemental contrasts that are illuminated throughout this book: PLATO versus ARISTOTLE o Realm: Transcendental vs. Mundane o Modus Operandi: Meditative vs. Empirical o Focus: Theoretical vs. Concrete o Mindset: Idealistic vs. Pragmatic o Granularity: Collective vs. Individualistic o Leverage: Authority vs. Liberty o Anthropology: Malleable vs. Intrinsic Human Nature o Education: Indoctrination vs. Free Exchange of Ideas o Agenda: Interventionist Statism vs. Spontaneous Dynamism. In modern times, the sequence of Platonic appropriations and extensions by Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, and Sorel is typified by stridency, violence, and annihilation, with the projection of only the vaguest of constructive goals (Chapters Twenty Four & Twenty Seven). Their common programmatic thrust was one of: generalized rebellion against economic/societal reality as they viewed it; and its wholesale destruction/displacement in order to somehow attain an idealized vision. Little wonder is then posed by the fact that these distorted ideas rationalized/facilitated the implacably aggressive and inhumane twentieth-century totalitarian regimes in Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, and Fascist Italy. There, ANY means were deemed warranted in pursuing their respective visions of a utopian reality. Alas, the leaders of these regimes initially enjoyed strong popular support among their citizenry. It seemed that people’s various discontentments with extant conditions were somehow felt to be rectifiable by the doctrinaire changes advocated by these regimes. Notably, these changes explicitly targeted free market capitalism, and aspired to alter human nature as well as reality itself. A similar if milder Platonic appropriation was the long-evolving creed of progressivism. It gained considerable momentum in the US during the Woodrow Wilson administration. It featured statist intervention purportedly in part to eliminate injustice and inequality. This largely involved a state-manipulated economy, as for example that undertaken in the US in the late1920s. Then, the newly formed Federal Reserve System blithely thought that it could eliminate the classic business cycle (Chapter Twenty Nine), which they considered inherent solely in capitalist free markets. Instead, their inordinate commitment to a bloated money supply and easy credit over-stimulated the economy, and eventually led into the American Depression. Such progressive initiatives, moreover, persisted unrelentingly into the World War II timeframe, without any significant economic remediation,. Furthermore, that depression spread to Europe under similar impetus/pretexts. Comparable deterioration in Europe’s economies and attendant societal instabilities provided opportunities for the rise of totalitarian regimes in Germany and Italy. There, respective activist ideologies ultimately evolved into the launching of World War II. Ironically, the government-hampered but still robust capitalist industrial capacity of the United States responded to wartime mobilization with the massive production of military assets that proved indispensable to the entire Allied military success. This singular accomplishment was especially remarkable for a capitalist economic system that had been so maligned and deprecated by the interventionist ideologies of all the Allied governments. This book presents many more illustrations of the evolution of the Plato-Aristotle legacy from their era onward. Moreover, the book’s deft thematic flow fosters an encompassing grasp of the enduring influence of these two dominating thinkers. Its scrutiny over such an extended timespan is necessarily selective, but the book’s content is nevertheless nicely presented and coherently integrated. For the general reader, this is a very readable, stimulating, and highly informative book, one with a timely and plausible message. For the more motivated reader, the book effectively provides a map for pursuing a deeper understanding of particular facets of the unfoldment of the Plato/Aristotle legacies. In all, a quite welcome accomplishment.
Review: Philosophical History of Western Civilization - Looking for a good history of Western philosophy, and admiring some of Arthur Herman's previous work, I purchased this book with high expectations. It didn't disappointed. The cave is an Plato's allegory (though it is probably a real place). What most of us see are shadows on the wall, that only represent a distortion of reality. A select few make it outside to the light and understand what is really going on. Aristotle disagreed and founded his own school. He believed that all of us had the potential to see the light. While it shouldn't be mistaken for today's democracy, Aristotle advocated a constitution that combined elements of one-man rule, oligarchy, and representative government. Herman ties centuries of philosophical development to the tension between Plato and Aristotle's belief systems. It is clear that Herman sides with Aristotle, though he concedes that Plato's arguments often have merit. Surprising to me, a lot depends on scientific discoveries, which often shift the balance to one side or the other. Critics claiming that Herman over-reaches probably have a good point (like all but a few, I'm no expert on philosophy). Every philosopher isn't directly related to Plato and Aristotle. While Plato preferred rule by the few, Herman should have given more emphasis to his humanitarian concerns. Plato didn't advocate the mass murderers Herman said his philosophy led to. The Cave and the Light is rich in historical detail. I don't know where Herman gets the time to do all of his research. For example, Austrian economist Friedrich Hayek predicted the stock market and subsequent depression in February 1929. This gives credence to arguments that the Federal Reserve's easy money policy of the 1920s caused the depression. While this is a very impressive work, Herman makes a few dubious assertions. I doubt if Austrians really supported the Anschluss by a 99 to 1 margin, even though Herman uses a good source. According to William Schirer, Austrian opinion on the Nazis at the time was evenly divided. I doubt if there are many contentious subjects where 99 percent of the voters are in agreement. Herman doesn't write much about Herbert Spencer and his lack of research shows. While Spencer originitated the term "survival of the fittest," he was not a disciple of Darwin. Spencer believed in a different theory of evolution. (Contrary to general impressions, Spencer was a humanitarian who never advocated "Social Darwinism." A survey of academic literature shows that there never was no movement promoting Social Darwinism. The term is a hobgoblin created by progressives, who often pushed eugenics and racist policies themselves. While Herman provides broad and deep coverage of philosophy, along with short biographies of philosophers, I wish he had spent more time on how philosophies reflect their founders personal lives. For example, Rousseau fathered five illegitimate children and dumped them off at a Genevan orphanage. Take Marx (please). He squandered an inheritance; could never manage money; wasn't interested in actual workers; falsified his research; mooched off his friends and family; and had an abusive relationship towards his only employee, a family maid. Marx never acknowledged or supported her illegitimate child that he fathered. He never paid her a cent. People who can't run their own lives shouldn't be telling the rest of us how to run ours. These flaws are relatively minor. I give it 4.5 stars. Since he book is very informatative and a rollicking read, I'll round up to five.

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| Customer Reviews | 4.6 out of 5 stars 664 Reviews |

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## Customer Reviews

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Engaging Content with Exceptional Thematic Focus, Narrative Flow & Integrative Range/Cohesion
*by D***E on January 9, 2021*

As a habitual eclectic reader, I rarely read a book as lengthy as this one; but its subject matter and treatment elicit/sustain the requisite attentiveness. The necessarily higher-level treatment of its panoramic content, moreover, has prompted me to order copies of a number of the book’s cited references - an indication of the range of the book’s vital content. These references are more specialized titles that I otherwise would likely have remained unaware of - an indication of the salience of the book’s disparate content. Most importantly, this book is an artful/insightful exposition of the enduring and ever-evolving historical impact of the respective legacies of Plato and Aristotle. In particular, it recounts the recurring interplay of subsequent appropriations of their ideas as well as their relative prominence during various historical periods. This interplay is grounded in the fundamentally opposed world views of Plato and Aristotle. The book centers on this interplay as evidenced in the various adaptations/extensions by subsequent influential thinkers. And in turn, these derivative ideas are explored in terms of their deployment by political movements, leaders, or governments. Historical oscillation in the relative influence of Plato-versus-Aristotle perspectives is seen to engender a general tension that yields a dynamism in-the-large that drives societal/cultural evolution. Politically, this dynamism inheres in the historically modulating force of collective authority relative to individual liberty, where the former associates with Plato’s legacy, and the latter with Aristotle’s. Discrete human decisions/actions in concert drive this dynamism in various near-term perturbations. These diverse forcing functions are enacted via incidentally available information, whose suitability and timelines is typically lacking to some degree. Clearly then, the selection and quality of such information constrain the caliber of results proactively achievable, especially on a large scale. In particular, such non-ideal factors become exceedingly problematical in trying to deliberately manage an overall economic system, challenging even its mere feasibility. Other sources of undesired outcomes loom in the decision-making process itself. On one hand, a Platonist authority’s striving for consensus or unanimity may yield stagnation - due to a single-minded foreclosure on alternative prospects. On the other hand, an Aristotelian emphasis on reasoning may impose a narrow-mindedness - due to the disregard of qualitative factors like humanistic considerations. In either case, the inherent opposition of the Plato-Aristotle legacy may well be evident in distorted outcomes. And in consequence, there arises the desideratum of a complementary blending of the two perspectives, or effectively, between affectivity and rationality. The pronounced difference in Plato’s and Aristotle’s respective positions, moreover, involves in a range of elemental contrasts that are illuminated throughout this book: PLATO versus ARISTOTLE o Realm: Transcendental vs. Mundane o Modus Operandi: Meditative vs. Empirical o Focus: Theoretical vs. Concrete o Mindset: Idealistic vs. Pragmatic o Granularity: Collective vs. Individualistic o Leverage: Authority vs. Liberty o Anthropology: Malleable vs. Intrinsic Human Nature o Education: Indoctrination vs. Free Exchange of Ideas o Agenda: Interventionist Statism vs. Spontaneous Dynamism. In modern times, the sequence of Platonic appropriations and extensions by Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, and Sorel is typified by stridency, violence, and annihilation, with the projection of only the vaguest of constructive goals (Chapters Twenty Four & Twenty Seven). Their common programmatic thrust was one of: generalized rebellion against economic/societal reality as they viewed it; and its wholesale destruction/displacement in order to somehow attain an idealized vision. Little wonder is then posed by the fact that these distorted ideas rationalized/facilitated the implacably aggressive and inhumane twentieth-century totalitarian regimes in Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, and Fascist Italy. There, ANY means were deemed warranted in pursuing their respective visions of a utopian reality. Alas, the leaders of these regimes initially enjoyed strong popular support among their citizenry. It seemed that people’s various discontentments with extant conditions were somehow felt to be rectifiable by the doctrinaire changes advocated by these regimes. Notably, these changes explicitly targeted free market capitalism, and aspired to alter human nature as well as reality itself. A similar if milder Platonic appropriation was the long-evolving creed of progressivism. It gained considerable momentum in the US during the Woodrow Wilson administration. It featured statist intervention purportedly in part to eliminate injustice and inequality. This largely involved a state-manipulated economy, as for example that undertaken in the US in the late1920s. Then, the newly formed Federal Reserve System blithely thought that it could eliminate the classic business cycle (Chapter Twenty Nine), which they considered inherent solely in capitalist free markets. Instead, their inordinate commitment to a bloated money supply and easy credit over-stimulated the economy, and eventually led into the American Depression. Such progressive initiatives, moreover, persisted unrelentingly into the World War II timeframe, without any significant economic remediation,. Furthermore, that depression spread to Europe under similar impetus/pretexts. Comparable deterioration in Europe’s economies and attendant societal instabilities provided opportunities for the rise of totalitarian regimes in Germany and Italy. There, respective activist ideologies ultimately evolved into the launching of World War II. Ironically, the government-hampered but still robust capitalist industrial capacity of the United States responded to wartime mobilization with the massive production of military assets that proved indispensable to the entire Allied military success. This singular accomplishment was especially remarkable for a capitalist economic system that had been so maligned and deprecated by the interventionist ideologies of all the Allied governments. This book presents many more illustrations of the evolution of the Plato-Aristotle legacy from their era onward. Moreover, the book’s deft thematic flow fosters an encompassing grasp of the enduring influence of these two dominating thinkers. Its scrutiny over such an extended timespan is necessarily selective, but the book’s content is nevertheless nicely presented and coherently integrated. For the general reader, this is a very readable, stimulating, and highly informative book, one with a timely and plausible message. For the more motivated reader, the book effectively provides a map for pursuing a deeper understanding of particular facets of the unfoldment of the Plato/Aristotle legacies. In all, a quite welcome accomplishment.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Philosophical History of Western Civilization
*by L***N on December 30, 2013*

Looking for a good history of Western philosophy, and admiring some of Arthur Herman's previous work, I purchased this book with high expectations. It didn't disappointed. The cave is an Plato's allegory (though it is probably a real place). What most of us see are shadows on the wall, that only represent a distortion of reality. A select few make it outside to the light and understand what is really going on. Aristotle disagreed and founded his own school. He believed that all of us had the potential to see the light. While it shouldn't be mistaken for today's democracy, Aristotle advocated a constitution that combined elements of one-man rule, oligarchy, and representative government. Herman ties centuries of philosophical development to the tension between Plato and Aristotle's belief systems. It is clear that Herman sides with Aristotle, though he concedes that Plato's arguments often have merit. Surprising to me, a lot depends on scientific discoveries, which often shift the balance to one side or the other. Critics claiming that Herman over-reaches probably have a good point (like all but a few, I'm no expert on philosophy). Every philosopher isn't directly related to Plato and Aristotle. While Plato preferred rule by the few, Herman should have given more emphasis to his humanitarian concerns. Plato didn't advocate the mass murderers Herman said his philosophy led to. The Cave and the Light is rich in historical detail. I don't know where Herman gets the time to do all of his research. For example, Austrian economist Friedrich Hayek predicted the stock market and subsequent depression in February 1929. This gives credence to arguments that the Federal Reserve's easy money policy of the 1920s caused the depression. While this is a very impressive work, Herman makes a few dubious assertions. I doubt if Austrians really supported the Anschluss by a 99 to 1 margin, even though Herman uses a good source. According to William Schirer, Austrian opinion on the Nazis at the time was evenly divided. I doubt if there are many contentious subjects where 99 percent of the voters are in agreement. Herman doesn't write much about Herbert Spencer and his lack of research shows. While Spencer originitated the term "survival of the fittest," he was not a disciple of Darwin. Spencer believed in a different theory of evolution. (Contrary to general impressions, Spencer was a humanitarian who never advocated "Social Darwinism." A survey of academic literature shows that there never was no movement promoting Social Darwinism. The term is a hobgoblin created by progressives, who often pushed eugenics and racist policies themselves. While Herman provides broad and deep coverage of philosophy, along with short biographies of philosophers, I wish he had spent more time on how philosophies reflect their founders personal lives. For example, Rousseau fathered five illegitimate children and dumped them off at a Genevan orphanage. Take Marx (please). He squandered an inheritance; could never manage money; wasn't interested in actual workers; falsified his research; mooched off his friends and family; and had an abusive relationship towards his only employee, a family maid. Marx never acknowledged or supported her illegitimate child that he fathered. He never paid her a cent. People who can't run their own lives shouldn't be telling the rest of us how to run ours. These flaws are relatively minor. I give it 4.5 stars. Since he book is very informatative and a rollicking read, I'll round up to five.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Comprehensive and Compelling
*by J***K on January 9, 2025*

When a writer presents the theme and then thoroughly supports it, they are successful in their endeavour. Arthur Herman did that in this fascinating book. His bibliography (and footnotes) is as voluminous as the book itself and after having read it, my mind is certainly expanded - but also exhausted. I couldn’t put it down for about half the book, then as subjects changed, I waned, but never stopped reading. Don’t get me wrong. It’s well written and engaging, despite covering so much material over a period of three millennia. He did a laudable job of carrying the numerous critical themes set forth by Plato and Aristotle into each age of time, including our own. I was especially interested when he covered the influential philosopher Hegel and how he represented Plato with regard to the totalitarian wave of the twentieth century. The broad range of subjects covered was comprehensive, and I believe done with balance and objectivity. Herman wove together the movements of history in a way that made sense and showed how one movement affects the next. I won’t quibble with any individual pixel statements or conclusions, but praise the writer’s initiative and effort, and marvel at the big picture he produced. Quite frankly, I’ve never read a book like this and I will save it for future reference but doubt I will ever read it again. Life is too short.

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