The silence of the girls

Absolutely wonderful! Vivid retelling from unique perspective.

Having read the works of Margaret Atwood and Madeline Miller, I may be a bit impaired/biased in my critical thinking (which is no longer truly critical thinking, then), yet telling the woman's side of the epic tales of Greek mythology has been done before and done far better. Although, I did enjoy Pat Barker's novel, it just does not stand up in the light of the works that have gone before it. I was very pleased with how Barker painted Brisies, and she paced the story well. There are moments in this book that truly shine, yet her usage of "We-ll," and her habit of using a phrase verbatim in other parts of the book were an irritant and in my opinion, lazy writing. So, why would I even give it 4 stars? Barker delve deeper into the day-to-day life of the fallen women in the Trojan war. She demonstrates what it truly means to be a slave. It is not merely a title, it is a state of mind that is at once abhorrent and, oddly a balm at times. She speaks to the true strength of women, the ones who endure rather than choose a swift death. She demonstrates the intricacies of relationships between the slaves and conquerors, as well as exploring the relationship of Kings and princes fighting in a war under the leadership of a frankly terrible man and King. We see Achilles and the ever loving Patroclus set in a different light, and the tale told anew in different aspects. Because these stories have withstood millennia, yet the details are conflicting and murky, we are both fascinated and repulsed by how they behaved and lived, falsely thinking that we are better than they. I am no misanthrope, but I do not see much difference in the world of the 21st century and the world of ancient Greece. Women are still the lesser, women still have to fight harder to win respect, women are still raped, women are still very much under the thumb of men. And war is the same now, yet we see it from our televisions and nobody goes to the battlefields to see the young men and women rallied to do the bidding of old men and women in the interests that are often contrary to their own and they died for this, are permanently maimed for this, and are left with the traumatic experiences marking their minds, souls and futures. Where I really think Pat Barker needed to have focused on to better the book is to decide whether or not the gods play a part actively or as a part of ancient Grecian life. In the book she does hem and haw about it, never truly commiting one way or the other. Brisies has dialogue with herself in which she sighs to her self saying "God only knows", when

Having read Pat Barker's World War 1 novels, I was pleased to discover that she had written one about the Trojan War. The Silence of the Girls gives us that war from the point of view of Briseis, who goes from being a Trojan princess to the prize of Achilles. The relationship of he and his best friend/lover Patroclus is so intense and believable. To me the most wrenching part of the story was of Achilles' grief. There is much here to remind us of the brutality of war and how women were part of the spoils. Pat Barker writes with a strong, sure voice of how the insanity of war affects the soldiers and their families in a setting thousands of years old. One point. At first I was startled to hear the vernacular of modern Britain in the mouths of the Trojans and Greeks. But then it made sense. It was easier to believe that these creatures of myth were real people because they spoke that way. In a world were the gods were as real to them as on- line musings are to us. Pat Barker makes us share in the sufferings and victories of kings, queens, slaves and soldiers alike, trapped in a world gone as out of control as our own. A great book about a great and frightening time.

Wow, an excellent idea to write a novel from the prospective of a Trojan Woman who could seamlessly tie many facets of Homer's "Iliad" together in a compelling and enlightening way. The author stuck pure good with this concept. So many books and movies have covered the masculine side of this conflict with only a nod to how Helen must have felt or been perceived the Greeks and the Trojans. The foil of Briseis, a Trojan Princess turned slave of Achilles, allows the author to cover a great deal of ground ranging from the sack of a Trojan city, a friendship with Helen, to the stand off between Agamemnon and Achilles over Briseis. Such great potential for a compelling novel to shed light on the overlooked women of this conflict. Unfortunately the author falls short in achieving this lofty goal. While at times the author is imaginative and brilliant with the inclusion of mythology into the storyline without the suspension of reality, at others she suffers from a stumbling shift between first and third person narrative. At random and seemingly odd times Briseis addresses the reader as if he or she was actively questioning her actions and motives. "You wouldn't know because you were never a slave..." I assume this is designed to draw out empathy from the reader, but it fails because it does not fit within the flow of the narrative. Writing irregularities aside, it is worth your time to read this novel. While it may not reach its full potential, it does breathe fresh life into a tragic story and attempts to give meaning and background to the women who suffered from and helped to shape this clash of civilizations.

I did enjoy this book but it wasn’t my favorite of the Troy stories I have read. This is a gruesome retelling of the legend we all know and is an interesting, unsettling read for the most part. Something strange in the way Barker allows the main character, along with others in the book, to speak as if they are all living in present day, when the setting is ancient day Troy. I kind of really disliked that style at first but it grew on me. I think it allows the reader to relate a bit better to a very harsh situation. The main character is portrayed much differently from what I have read of her in the past, and I disliked/eventually appreciated that as well. Basically..if you dig Greek myths and all the macabre details about Troy, you’ll most likely enjoy it.

I didn't even remember Briseis from the Iliad. Why is that? Because 1) I read it decades ago, and 2) Homer includes Briseis only as the instigation of the quarrel between Agamemnon and Achilles. Briseis is given to Achilles as a war prize, and when Agamemnon takes her from Achilles, Achilles retaliates by refusing to fight. For Homer, who only mentions Briseis 3 times, she is a pawn to urge the quarrel forward. The Silence of the Girls, however, gives voice to all the women who have been captured and enslaved either as concubines or slave labor. Here, we have Briseis's version of her capture, enslavement as a concubine and her observations of the war, of Achilles and Patroclus and Agamemnon, and of the other captured women. The story is dark, as war stories generally are, but it is compulsively readable, perhaps because Briseis and the women knew what to expect and because the narrative keeps an observational distance. Do you need to have read the Iliad? No. Read it as a retelling from another point of view. In its way, it is a story of all wars with violence, death, and abuses of every kind. A different time, different cultures, but as current as Ukraine and the Middle East with different weapons. Recommended. I immediately got the next book in this trilogy by Pat Barker

I am a sucker for anything having to do with Greek mythology and I am also a fan of this author’s novels, so I was really looking forward to reading this book. I was not disappointed. I’ve read the Iliad and the Odyssey and have read many stories and seen many movies that retell those stories. When I was young I thought the Odyssey was the more interesting of the two with the many tales of monsters and evil sorceresses. It was only when I was older did I really appreciate the Iliad and how deeply the story resonates still in modern times. What this book does - which is remarkable both in its execution and in its originality - is have us view the story of the the Trojan War from the viewpoint of the women involved. Most of the time the story is narrated from the point of view of Briseis, the princess given as a war prize to Achilles. (Occasionally we get a few short chapters from Achilles point-of -view.) When we read the story from Briseis and witness what we do from her eyes, this story will be changed for you forever. At least it was for me. This is not the retelling of a classic book with a modern feminist viewpoint coming in as an anachronism; that makes me a little crazy. Instead we see what life was like in that time not just for the men, but for the women too. As awful as it was for the men, the horrors for the women was even worse. Forced to witness the slaughter of their husbands and children then given to the victors as either war brides (if they’re lucky) or else given to the soldiers, the women suffer unimaginable atrocities. You are always aware of this when you read books and stories - that the women suffer - but you’re so used to getting lost in the heroic and adventurous tales such as those of Achilles and Hector that you can forget about what’s happening just out of view. This book makes us look. For me, one of the signs of a good book is whether or not I want to pick it up again. This absolutely passed that test. I loved this book and when I read the last page I experienced that “reader’s high” that you get when you’ve really read something that has moved you. Highly recommended.

Greek myths, especially ones involving warfare are depicted primarily from the male perspective. This story departs from the usual recounting of the exploits of Achilles during the Trojan War in that Briseis is the central character. We see much of the protracted battle between the Greeks and the Trojans play out through her capture as Achilles’s war prize. The relationship triangle is explored among Achilles, Patroclus, and Briseis even though jealousy isn’t a primary factor. As Briseis is a slave, she adopts a realistic attitude of acquiescence to her servitude to survive. She bears witness to the unbreakable bond between Achilles and Patroclus and develops a strange sort of understanding of the anger that drives Achilles. Patroclus becomes her friend and treats her with unexpected but appreciated kindness. The day-to-day lives of the women slaves are described in excruciating detail. All the way from harem girls providing pleasure to women tending wounded soldiers, their existence alternates between hard labor, boredom, loneliness, pain, and terror. Briseis is one of the fortunate ones. As the prize of Achilles, she is given greater respect than most of the captured women, many of whom were former wives of Trojan aristocrats. Pat Barker’s writing puts you in the middle of the action. The story is immediate and unflinching. You smell the campfires, see the wounded men, and feel the sadness of the captured women. I offer a cautionary note that there are plenty of violent, brutal, and adult situations that some readers may not like.

Eine Geschichte über einen Krieg kann wohl nur grausam sein. Insoweit hätte mein Geschichtslehrer gesagt: "Nur für starke Nerven!" Lesenswert ist, wie die Autorin herausarbeitet, welche eigentlich sehr lächerlichen Gründe hinter dem ganzen Gemetzel stehen: Kindsköpfe, die wie kleine Jungs handeln, die sich im Sandkasten das Spielzeug wegnehmen wollen. Gerade heute ein sehr wichtiges Buch. Beim aktuellen Krieg in Europa dürfte es im Grunde kaum anders sein.

Very original rewriting of the Iliad! Achilles' myth is deconstructed to erect a new narrative, the one of Briseis, the slave.

10/10 writing & well described emotions

Gripping, wonderful, well written Love it

“Great Achilles. Brilliant Achilles, shining Achilles, godlike Achilles … How the epithets pile up. We never called him any of those things; we called him ‘the butcher’.” Such a good book, well written and never boring. I liked the way it was written and how it focused more on the Trojan war than The Song of Achilles did. The only negative thing I have to say is that it focused way to little on the women which the story was supposed to be about, or at least what I thought it was supposed about. I got the impression that this was going to show more deeply how the slave girls was treated and on a certain level there was but only though Briseis eyes. This book is about the main character Briseis and her relationship with Achilles as his bed-slave. This doesn’t necessarily make the book worse but I just find it strange that it’s supposed to be about the slave girls but are equally or even more about Achilles.