Question 1

can this be installed on tile without finding studs in the wall?

Accepted Answer

I have 7 units installed on the ceramic tiles in the bath room. That is,1 (24"), 5 (36"), and 1 (48") that are not installed on studs. They worked perfectly to provide support
for my wife's balance condition.  I would not hesitate to mount to mount the supports
again on ceramic tiles again for balance support.

Question 2

Is the secure mount the best way to mount one of these in an apartment with steel studs?

Accepted Answer

Apartment? 
1. Will you lose your security deposit if you install this?
2. Is this in a bathroom?
3. If you answered NO to Q1 and YES to Q2, the grab bar can be mounted using sheet metal screws into pilot holes drilled into the metal studs.

Question 3

I need this for a elderly 225+ lbs male for help, not lifing entire weight from shower and using non-stud install, will it fail??

Accepted Answer

My husband weighs about 200 lbs. and I had it installed for him, but I really love it too.  I had a professional install it as it had to go on a ceramic tile wall, which can be tricky to drill on.
I highly recommend this grab bar and I like the length.

Question 4

Will all 3 screws fit into one stud 1 3/4 in stud width ?

Accepted Answer

Hello and thank you for your interest in Moen products.  The Moen R8724W Home Care Bathroom Safety 24-Inch Grab Bar with Concealed Screws, Glacier is designed to be installed with the included 2” screws into studs. For installations when stud mounting is not possible, the Moen R8724W Home Care Bathroom Safety 24-Inch Grab Bar with Concealed Screws, Glacier can be installed using Moen’s SecureMount anchors, part number SMA1000CH, if you have 3-1/2” of open space behind the mounting surface.  If you have additional questions, please feel free to call us at 800-289-6636.  Our current business hours are Monday through Friday from 9:00 am - 5:30 pm (Eastern Time).

ASIN	B001EHXEPG
Best Sellers Rank	#23,130 in Tools & Home Improvement ( See Top 100 in Tools & Home Improvement ) #106 in Bath Towel Bars
Brand Name	Moen
Color	Stainless
Customer Reviews	4.7 4.7 out of 5 stars (707)
Finish Types	Stamped
Global Trade Identification Number	00034584094902
Included Components	Grab Bar, Installation Instructions, Mounting Hardware
Item Dimensions L x W	19.25"L x 3.25"W
Item Type Name	Bathroom Safety 24-Inch Grab Bar with Concealed Screws
Item Weight	454 g
Manufacturer	Moen Incorporated
Manufacturer Part Number	R8724P
Manufacturer Warranty Description	Limited Lifetime Warranty
Material Type	Stainless Steel
Model Number	R8724P
Number of Items	1
Number of Packs	1
Style Name	Transitional
UPC	034584094902
Unit Count	1 Count

Moen Home Care Bathroom Safety 24 Inch Stainless Steel Handicap Grab Bar for Bathtub and Shower, Slip Resistant Peened Texture, Elderly Assistance Product, Polished Brass, R8724P

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